Buddhism & Christianity meet...
My Agora friend posted a good paper on The Cross and the Lotus: A Dialogue on Sufferings.
I cut and paste my comment for him here.
Wow, well done Jack! This is a quality presentation. In my primary school, Buddhism was a compulsory subject. We were given the original teaching of Siddharta Gautama, not the evolved ones. For a period of time I was quite attracted by the teaching, and by the moral example of my Buddhist teacher who became a monk later on. But I was quite confused by all the different versions of Buddhism I saw in my family (mixed with ancestor worships) and my Buddhist friends who pass on different stuffs. From your presentation, I have a deeper appreciation of those teaching I received in the past and clearer understanding of its development. We can definitely learn more on this topic since it is a top-growing religion/system of thought now.
In my understanding, Buddhism concept of the essence of life is sufferings. The purpose is to get out of this wheel of reincarnation by mortifying all your desires. That is why ascetism is encouraged as a higher way of life to reach Nirvana faster.
Christianity has a far higher and balanced view of life, in that we acknowledge both the beauty and the darkness of the world. We are taught self-denial, not to kill our desires, but to sanctify them. We are to detach ourselves from the world, but unlike Buddhism where 'nothingness' is bliss, we are to attach unto Christ, where all our thoughts and emotions finally find their rest and Home.
I think, philosophies of the world can give some concepts of ideals but when it come to practice we are all perplexed in contraditions. Christianity on the other hand, presents to us not an abstract ideal, but a Man, in flesh and blood and bone, the unity of the ideal and the real.
I cut and paste my comment for him here.
Wow, well done Jack! This is a quality presentation. In my primary school, Buddhism was a compulsory subject. We were given the original teaching of Siddharta Gautama, not the evolved ones. For a period of time I was quite attracted by the teaching, and by the moral example of my Buddhist teacher who became a monk later on. But I was quite confused by all the different versions of Buddhism I saw in my family (mixed with ancestor worships) and my Buddhist friends who pass on different stuffs. From your presentation, I have a deeper appreciation of those teaching I received in the past and clearer understanding of its development. We can definitely learn more on this topic since it is a top-growing religion/system of thought now.
In my understanding, Buddhism concept of the essence of life is sufferings. The purpose is to get out of this wheel of reincarnation by mortifying all your desires. That is why ascetism is encouraged as a higher way of life to reach Nirvana faster.
Christianity has a far higher and balanced view of life, in that we acknowledge both the beauty and the darkness of the world. We are taught self-denial, not to kill our desires, but to sanctify them. We are to detach ourselves from the world, but unlike Buddhism where 'nothingness' is bliss, we are to attach unto Christ, where all our thoughts and emotions finally find their rest and Home.
I think, philosophies of the world can give some concepts of ideals but when it come to practice we are all perplexed in contraditions. Christianity on the other hand, presents to us not an abstract ideal, but a Man, in flesh and blood and bone, the unity of the ideal and the real.

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me again... but this time is just a joke.. the joke that makes me pondering the meaning of the 'End'..
A : Do you believe in christ?
B : Nope, i am buddhist
A : So, you will not go to heaven... Are you aware of that?
B : hua, i do not want to go to heaven. Why must i go there?
A : You will see God in heaven!!
B : OOh.. i am not going to heaven, i know that.. I will go to Nirvana..
A : Ha?? nirvana... but that's not heaven?
B : Yeah.. too bad for you, you cannot go to nirvana...
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peace ya, peace ya.. no offense =P
Hmmm... I think this is one example of definition problem. Thanks for bringing it up. :)
Language is meant to convey meaning but it is very limited. Sometimes the same terms mean different things and sometimes different terms refer to the same thing. So a person needs to make the meaning of his terms understood by the other party in order for any conversation to be meaningful at all.
I would think that both Heaven and Nirvana are meant to refer to the concept of everlasting bliss. It is no wonder that many religions/philosphies have such concept because we are all made in God's image where we retain a concept of eternity in our hearts. After the Fall humans no longer see clearly and we need both God's Regeneration work and Revelation to give us the right understanding.
The essential differences between the Christian concept of heaven and Buddhist concept of Nirvana, I think, are in the following aspects:
(1) What the essence of everlasting bliss is
(2) How to get there
So in order to communicate, I think each one should begin by explaining what they mean by Christ, heaven, Buddhist, Nirvana, God,... then the exchanges will be meaningful. :)
yoi, i agree...
i hope you really mean with 'to communicate', since i am afraid, a lot of us, still prefer to judge and marginalize the difference.. as if, we are the only child of God... =P and the rest, devil's one..
sorry, aku sdg mendalami pemikiran, Kita bukan anak tunggal Bapa..
I agree. Knowing how to see and acknowledge our common ground is a very important aspect of communication. Only with that, we can talk about differences meaningfully. :)
Regarding God's children, God knows who are His. As humans, we can't see what's in a person's heart but at best can only infer from the external things we see. The more important question is whether each individual is sure of his position before God, not whether others are sure of his, or he is sure of others. A person who truly knows God will be very concerned of his accountability before God and would not be so 'kaypo' how others fare before Him. But in wisdom and discernment, God does give us His Word to guide us as far as He sees necessary.
absolutely agree =)
good input =), as usual, you are very mejlina.. =P
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